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Mharius Skjem
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Posted - 2014.10.30 21:02:02 -
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My old corp got awoxed loads of times, on account of the fact that we were deeply unpopular...
Despite that, though I think it's a mistake to remove the ability to awox corps.
When I got awoxed it made me so goddam mad, it spured me and my corp mates into action against who we thought was responsible.
In other words it's the unpleasant stuff like corporate heists and awoxing, ganking etc that makes you emotionally invest in your character, your ships and your friends. If we lose awoxing then we lose one more route to emotinal investment.
If eve becomes a game without emotional investment then it is really is dead regardless of subscriber numbers.
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Posted - 2014.10.30 21:13:13 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:My old corp got awoxed loads of times, on account of the fact that we were deeply unpopular...
Despite that, though I think it's a mistake to remove the ability to awox corps.
When I got awoxed it made me so goddam mad, it spured me and my corp mates into action against who we thought was responsible.
In other words it's the unpleasant stuff like corporate heists and awoxing, ganking etc that makes you emotionally invest in your character, your ships and your friends. If we lose awoxing then we lose one more route to emotinal investment.
If eve becomes a game without emotional investment then it is really is dead regardless of subscriber numbers. Awox will still be possible if the rumor ends up being true. Only change is now you will have consequences. And as many have demonstrated,,,,some of the so called pvp'rs and content creators don't want consequences for themselves.
Tell me more about these consequences... I'm still reading the 146 page pdf (which by the way I love).
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Posted - 2014.10.30 22:10:10 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:Syn Shi wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:My old corp got awoxed loads of times, on account of the fact that we were deeply unpopular...
Despite that, though I think it's a mistake to remove the ability to awox corps.
When I got awoxed it made me so goddam mad, it spured me and my corp mates into action against who we thought was responsible.
In other words it's the unpleasant stuff like corporate heists and awoxing, ganking etc that makes you emotionally invest in your character, your ships and your friends. If we lose awoxing then we lose one more route to emotinal investment.
If eve becomes a game without emotional investment then it is really is dead regardless of subscriber numbers. Awox will still be possible if the rumor ends up being true. Only change is now you will have consequences. And as many have demonstrated,,,,some of the so called pvp'rs and content creators don't want consequences for themselves. Tell me more about these consequences... I'm still reading the 146 page pdf (which by the way I love). You are reading the wrong stuffs. "There seems to be a strong suggestion that you will soon no longer be able to "legally" shoot corpmates, and the implication seems to be that shooting corpmates will be a criminal act in highsec that will be met with CONCORD retribution." The only ones saying awoxing is going to disappear are the ones who don't like the fact that the only baseless thing that was mentioned was that now Concord would step in. Which translates into someone not wanting to awox anymore because they will lose their ship as well.
Then it's a sad change. Eve is at it's most beautiful and enticing when she is at her most brutal... If we keep going like this then soon there wont be any risk at all left in highsec and that is not what eve is about.
A concord response is not warranted here. Does this mean that training ops for corps now have to take place in low sec or null and that if I engage my corp-mates whilst training I will lose security status as well as my ship?
If so it's going to break a huge chunk of the game.
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Posted - 2014.10.30 22:13:06 -
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Dave Stark wrote:
i think fozzie wants you to use the dueling mechanic instead.
I'd forgotten we had a duelling mechanic or shall we just do our training in the new fangled instances or 'dojos' that have recently made their way on to the test server.
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Posted - 2014.11.01 23:54:46 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:I do agree with the idea that awoxing as it exists currently is entirely too easy, but on the flip side, I don't think the "shooting your corpmates" should totally go away.
Maybe a compromise. Add a new corp role, "security officer". THEY have the ability to shoot corpmates with no concord response. Of course, let the target return fire via limited engagement and all.
Simple fix. Awoxing is made a little harder in that you need some social engineering to pull off. You can still catch out people who aren't paying attention, but there's still a degree of "protection" in there.
Very good idea +1 from me.
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Posted - 2014.11.02 00:25:31 -
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Awoxing as it stands is actually an important part of life in eve, for most people it's an opportunity to wreak revenge for past misdeeds, or an opportunity to unleash the demi god within and cause some bad karma. What makes that attractive is the thought that you just might get away with it.
A concord response guarantees that you won't get away with it, concord is applying the sanctions that the awoxed players should be coming up with.
CCP is replacing opportunities for human interaction and human angst that drives emotional engagement with automated ones that ensure that awoxers won't get followed or hounded by the Corp mates they've betrayed.
Concord shouldn't be a replacement for player punishment.
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